Jousting with Joyce – initial thoughts

jousting with joyce Jousting with Joyce   initial thoughts

We’re three chapters into our readalong of Ulysses, and I’ve come to following conclusion:

Joyce was a genius. Or whacked.

I can’t really decide.

Let me explain. Ulysses is full of allusions. The whole thing is modeled after Homer’s Odyssey, but it seems like every word, every character, every line of dialogue, is meant to evoke some meaning or memory. The thought of someone coming up with this beast of a book just boggles my mind.

On the other hand, there are moments when the book is also practically incomprehensible (ahem…chapter 3).

So. Genius. Whacked. Genius. Whacked. Which is it?

Maybe both?

And that’s where my thoughts stand at the moment. Now, let’s chat a bit about what’s happening. This is where, if you’re going to ever read this (although judging by the comments on prior posts, I’m guessing that’s not many of you), you’ll want to leave.

In Chapter 1, Telemachus, we meet (or, if we ever read The Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (which I haven’t), we’re re-introduced to) Stephen Dedalus. Stephen is our young hero, the counterpart to Odysseus’s son Telemachus. He lives with Buck Mulligan, an obnoxious medical student who likes to party and bullies Stephen into lending him money and paying the rent. Like Telemachus, Stephen needs to learn how to stand up for himself. And like Telemachus, he’s saddled with moochers.

In Chapter 2, Nestor, Stephen heads off to work, teaching history to young boys at a small, private school. It doesn’t take much time…he teaches for an hour, and then meets with the headmaster to collect his wages. The headmaster goes off on a few tangents that are meant to evoke Irish history and remind us of Nestor, Telemachus’s first stop in his search for papa Odysseus (I know this only because I’m consulting Stuart Gilbert’s analysis James Joyce’s Ulysses).

Chapter 3, Proteus,  is a long, rambling monologue. Stephen walks to the sea. Along the way he stops to visit his uncle Richie. At least, I think he does. It may have just been imagined. It’s hard to tell when there’s no actual dialogue. In fact, it was hard to know what Stephen was thinking for most of this chapter. Mostly what I remember is that there were things mentioned in other languages, there was a dog, and there was the sea. This is the chapter that makes a good case for Joyce being whacked. I offer you this proof:

Come. I thirst. Clouding over. No black clouds anywhere, are there? Thunderstorm. Allbright he falls, proud lightning of the intellect, Lucifer, dico, qui nescit occasum. No. My cockle hat and staff and his my sandal shoon. Where? To evening lands. Evening will find itself. (page 50)

Yeah. Chapter 3 was pretty much one great WTF.

So that brings us to the end of the Telemachus, the first book in Ulysses. Besides my genius-whacked debate, the thing that really stood out for me was the sea. It’s everywhere. Even Buck had to talk about it:

God, he said quietly. Isn’t the sea what Algy calls it: a grey sweet mother? The snotgreen sea. The scrotumtightening sea. Epi oinopa ponton. Ah, Dedalus, the Greeks. I must teach you. You must read them in the original. Thalatta! Thalatta! She is our great sweet mother. Come and look. (page 5)

epi oinopa ponton = the wine-dark sea, which was a phrase Homer used often in the Odyssey

thalatta = the Sea

See what I mean? Sorry. Bad pun. I’ll stop now, with this final observation: how did people read this book before Google?!?

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If you’re reading along with us, and you’ve written a post about the first week’s adventures, please leave a link so we can visit and commiserate!

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14 Responses to Jousting with Joyce – initial thoughts

  1. Care says:

    I’m sorry! I’ve only gotten to about page 10. #hangsheadinshame

  2. Allie says:

    You sound like you understood it way better than I did. I had to keep looking up stuff online to figure it out.

    And I totally missed all the references to the sea. I fail.

    And I love Google. It saved me.

  3. Paul says:

    Well, congratulations are in order for making it past Ep3. That chapter stopped in my tracks the first several times I attempted to read it. Then I stopped caring to know what was going on, embraced my inferiority to JJ and just plowed through. It gets better (and worse; Oxen of the Sun {Ep14} is brutal). Cheers!

  4. Jenners says:

    That excerpt alone convinces me I couldn’t read it … and I don’t like having to conduct a research project to read a book. I’m lazy like that.

  5. Doing this as a readalong (and google) seems the perfect way to tackle Ulysses. Are you sucking on Lifesavers while you read?

  6. Care says:

    I’m sticking with it even if I’m waaaaayyy behind. I WILL get to Chapter 3. I WILL dammit.

  7. Trish says:

    Yes, the sea. I’m totally lost but not in the miserable way I was with Brothers Karamazov. I’m absolutely intrigued by this book so far. Even if I couldn’t even give you a decent summary.

    I think Joyce was whacked. And genius. Unforutnately I haven’t been able to dig deep enough to pick up the Odyssey connection yet other than Stephen is just as whiny as Telemachus.

  8. Trisha says:

    Very nicely done Jill! I’m enjoying it sort of….when I have the time to dedicate to reading, I like it. But it’s terrible for the short read. Just terrible. :)

  9. Shelley says:

    I just finished part 1, and although I had no idea what was going on in chapter 3, I still somehow really enjoyed it. There was an intriguing rhythm to it. I wasn’t really into him putting his booger on the rock, though. Joyce seems to have an obsession with snot.

  10. Just received my copy of it today so I will try to catch up! Looking forward to diving into this, actually!

  11. Nice summary of Part 1. I haven’t read the Odyssey for a really, really, really long time so all the allusions are lost on me. I totally agree that section 3 was a train wreck… Thanks again for hosting the readalong as I’m not sure I’d have had the strength to continue otherwise!

  12. Andi says:

    I think it was Chapter 3 and my feeling of “what-the-frack-ever” that made me put the book down.

  13. Lisa says:

    Oh my this sounds like so much work to try to understand!

  14. Jason Gignac says:

    Alright, so the REAL question – which are you hating more, this or Brothers K? :D

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